Comments on: Addons and Healing

By: Kyran

Kyran — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:09:09 +0000

hehe I realise this post is way old but I have still managed to find it recently so for any others that may come across it im going to put my thoughts to you.

I think healing without an addon that operates such as clique reduces your efficiency. Either you have a keybinding for every single person or you have to click them. If you have to click them then an addon such as clique can turn the click into a cast with the use of control keys. If your not using an addon you would have to time your button press as far as I can see. To me that clearly without arguments says healing with such an addon is more efficient.
Obviously there are a lot of factors too many addons could slow your computer down etc etc but in a perfectly equal world that is the fact is it not.

Healing addons do not do the job for you. This is a senseless remark or joke I have seen people use. Firstly blizzard have put in measures to stop addons doing that very thing. Secondly as somebody else pointed out as far as I am concerned the choosing target is the think phase and thats what important to me at least not how hard it is to then carry out that by means of one gesture or another.

People against addons has it occured to you what a macro is in comparison? Blizzard built a system into the game to allow addons they also built a system in to allow macros. They are different but they both are for the same reason to aid the user. So you would use 100 macros but not addons :S doesn’t make sense to me.

My final point now. The game difficulty is being adjusted constantly. Every new dungeon, patch etc. What is the difficulty based on? Well of course its based on us the user. So when they make a dungeon that is difficult at the time say now ICC. How many people in ICC use healing addons? and addons such as clique? I think those who don’t are in the minority. If you don’t think so ask around make your own mind up. But my question to you is that if indeed must people use these addons then blizz are guaging the difficulty on the people with the addons on average common sense surely. When these people are finding it the right difficulty then blizzard keep the balance there and guess what those who don’t have such addons will find it harder as for how hard obviously thats another argument that I don’t care to go into.

By: Hardy Pottinger

Hardy Pottinger — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:25:15 +0000

Well, I can’t believe no on has asked yet… so I will: what are your key bindings on the Nostromo? I play a fresh 80 priest, leveled in shadow, have dabbled a bit in the BGs as disc, but am ready to jump into randoms. My Nostromo is set up for shadow, and I’ve been using Clique + Grid for healing… but I’m finding myself running into walls and junk because the clicking is messing with mouse turning. I know, I know, I look like the noob I am. But I’d like to hear more about the other half of your kit, since the Nostromo is such a big part of your setup. Thanks!

By: Nayum

Nayum — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:44:21 +0000

In August of 2005 I was booted from the #2 guild on my server because, due to a patch, i was watching 6 other healers in our raid fail miserably and I told them how useless they were. Since that time I have made it a point to heal (disc priest) using only decursive and full announcements from my raid mod. I will have to say that I definatly do not need the tricked out vette or the geo metro. I can do it better and to a much finer point with only my scooter.

What I learned from that was how crucial planning is, If you are not prepared for the raid then you will need the fancy add-ons to make up for the gaps in your preparations. I review every raid I do for an hour before going regardless of how many times i have been there, ( farm status excluded). that is what makes a good healer or a good tank. and yes dps are a dime a dozen and not all that important.

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The Addon Debate « Lenelie’s Voice — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:24:10 +0000

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By: Kwane

Kwane — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:21:26 +0000

@ and Anyone else who cares to reply
Please read and understand the thread and comments

From this point on, any reply just to be argumentative or derogatory will be deleted.

I admin the site and have just grown tired of the replies to this thread and the types of replies that come from not fully understanding what you are commenting on.

Sarala, two comments above basically captured the idea and thoughts behind this post with:
“What happened, as Underdark pointed out in an earlier comment, is that I became more confident in my healing and over time was able to assess what spell was appropriate for the situation instead of simply left-clicking over the target’s bar for a flash heal.”

Further, if continuing replies arent intended to be constructive I may well delete the thread all together, if people arent finding any wisdom here in.

By: Macapple

Macapple — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:03:51 +0000

Ok i have only one point to make here in that when you talk about not using in game addons and the nt52e is what you use. Its a programable keyboard interface.

So what does that actually mean.

Well in general 90% of keyboards you cannot preprogram buttons for macros or keystrokes. However the nt52e is massively programable and can be set up for all kinds of key sequences and macros which can with a mouse over do EXACTLY what in game add ons do.

So i think it is rather silly taking a stance that in game add ons are a sign that people cant play when your using a programable keypad capability which gives you a huge advantage.

Playing the devils advocate , go play the game with a basic keyboard and no addons then repost how good you are and you may not be as “efficient” as you claim to be.

By: Sarala

Sarala — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:20:39 +0000

Healbot is the only healing addon I have ever used, although the way I have used it has changed. As a new healer, I used Healbot (HB) as a more of a crutch than as a tool. What happened, as Underdark pointed out in an earlier comment, is that I became more confident in my healing and over time was able to assess what spell was appropriate for the situation instead of simply left-clicking over the target’s bar for a flash heal. Currently I use HB as an interface, just like unit frames, for my mouseover macros (I have ten set up on the numerical keypad). With HB, I can see:
1: Party members targeted by a bad guy, along with their health and their incoming heals.
2: Who is in range of my heal.
3: Party members afflicted by a disease or magic affect.
4: Status on Power Word Shield, Renew, Prayer of Mending, and Abolish Disease on each party member.

For the record, I didn’t know you could use the HB bars as mouseover targets until well into level 70. Having as much information at my fingertips help me to be a better healer. If you are keeping your raid up, they won’t care what kind of addons you are or are not using.

By: PTD

PTD — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:27:33 +0000

I could and have healed with the default UI, it’s just not nearly as efficient. I COULD…I just would rather not. Do people actually do things using the default UI anymore? Other than newbs??

By: Solaril

Solaril — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:32:43 +0000

Well, a fine kettle of fish we have here. It would seem I am a couple of days late to this mad house, but in the event there is some poor soul such as my self late and catching up, I shall post also.
As for add ons, I use them. I am a Healbot person. As stated somewhere above before the bloodbath began, its is basically som eof the other add ons congealed into one. I have also used Vis heal before, and it also is pretty much like healbot. Can I heal a 5 man instance without add ons….you are darn tootin I can. Can I heal a 10/25 raid with it? I can but with MUCH less efficiency and poor reaction time. Add ons were created to maek us streamlined and more efficient. You WANT to be able to see if a heal is coming in form another person in your raid group yes? Save that mana if you can, you may very well need it later on. Since mana efficiency can mean the difference between a whipe or a win, I use my add ons happily, and the healing team in TDE often get told “nice healing”, “good job”.
Do I know ppl who do not use add ons at all to help them. No. Are they out there…perhaps they are, but not in our guild. Now, coud I use the macro’s and such that Vonya has happily decided to share with us (thank you Vonya), I could, but I will admit if she had not posted it now I would not have thought of it, I am macro deficient. I am not even sure why it works when I see the directions for it. I use the add ons instead. I still cast the spells myself, I just get to set it up in the add on vs making the macro. To me they are the same species, just from different branches of the family tree.
I think that this arguement is much like the one about CoH empowering bad healers and healing….poppy cock. I am not sure who it was that gave the best reply to all that mess, but it basically asked, “Did you live? Did you win? IF the answer is yes, then it was the right choice.” Or for those who dont like that and want to start argueing about it, its like Almond Joy vs Mounds…..you either want it with or without add ons. Its your 15 bucks, play it how you like, but dont ridicule others for thier choices or opinions, its just rude.

Thanks for the stimulation Vonya,
Solaril

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