The Egotistical Priest
An irreverent and opinionated discussion of the many classes
in the World of Warcraft gaming universe.
Professions…
by Zasp
Where is the patch? I have so much that I’m looking forward to in it. For example, the “one hit and you get it all” change to mining. Instead of seven taps on that Rich Saronite, it’ll be just one and you still get the same amount of goodies!
Gotta Go!’s timer will be extended to 4 minutes and the little 5 man squad will have our Red Proto Drakes. After a bit of research on the achievement, we decided it was to much RNG for us to deal with. I applaud everyone that’s done the RNG dance and stacked the group to get it done. It just wasn’t for us even if we all really want it.
And Nysia’s damage (my ret pally) will see an increase. I will enjoy Vengeance stacking to five vs the three stack it is currently.
Not to mention the other goodies people are looking forward to.
I’ve been redoing Nyisa’s professions for Min/Max purposes. Jewelcrafting and Blacksmithing (and I had forgotten how much Blacksmithing sucks). The raw amount of materials you need for one skill up is a little silly, at least in my eyes.
Jewelcrafting, while it was a little expensive (buying a ton of Aquamarines off the AH) was at least faster. I hit 367 in one day of work and then hit the 400 mark the next day, which was my goal. All I wanted was to be able to craft Bold Dragons Eyes and prospect Saronite. If I get more skill ups cool, if not I won’t be worried about it till there’s something BoP that Vonya can’t already create for me.
Blacksmithing, on the other hand, has taken far longer. I finally hit 300 last night on Nyisa, needing 580 Iron Bars and being unable (Unable meaning in this case there was simply no bars or ore on the AH for me to pay for.) to pay outrageous prices on the AH means it takes a while to gather em all up. Especially with competition. And the only reason I even want to level it currently is for the Glove and Bracer Sockets. Which amount to around 80 AP for her if I socket both with Bold Scarlet Rubies. Far better then LW or Enchanting for AP bonuses, which is why I took Blacksmithing in the first place.
It should also be said that the only Tradeskill in the game I have ever liked is Mining – or, I suppose, pretty much any other gathering profession. I’ve had all professions to at least 300 now short of Inscription, and there has yet to be a profession that I enjoy. I usually end up choosing my professions to get some sort of advantage that can’t be gained in some other fashion.
I’m fairly positive if the professions didn’t offer any BoP perks all my characters would have a gathering profession just to try and make money or help my friends out.
I don’t often feel motivated to stop what I’m doing to power-level some profession, so it’s taken some time. It also didn’t help that it took me a bit to embrace Nyisa as my main. And now that I have, that motivation has changed a little bit.
Besides the professions, I’ve actually been doing my Sons of Hodir dailies agian and I dropped the cash to get my Darkmoon Card: Greatness. And let me just tell you the 11k price tag that I paid for mine? Was totally worth it, seeing my Character hit 6.1k AP while soloing with only Imp. Blessing of Might is pretty freaking awesome.
I have a question for you all, do you choose Professions based on whats fun for you or do you take the same approach as me and attempt to min/max for Max DPS or that extra stamina for tanking or even the extra spell power for the healing and spell throwing?
I’m rather curious, my guild sees about a half half mix, and not all of em Min/Max entirely, meaning Leatherworking/Enchanting or the like? Just as good as Blacksmithing/Jewelcrafting mostly because they have put a lot of work in their professions already, and that 30 AP they’d get from switching around just isn’t worth it to them. Which I understand, I know not everyone is a freak of nature and can farm for hours on end without getting bored.
I take that back. Iron is my nemesis probably the only thing in game I get fed up with farming for…
January 14th, 2009
All my characters start out as gathers and generally stay that way till nearly max level. I do not worry about picking out a crafting profession till then and in the meantime I make lots of money selling mats. Once I am ready to pick a crafting profession, or 2, I pick based on what will best benefit that particular character and my others.
Currently my main is a Tailor/Inscriptor. Then I have a druid that is an alchemist/herbalist…seriously all druids should be flower pickers! Flightform is amazing for farming flowers! Those are my 2 80s. I also have a mage (tailor/miner) and a shammy that is currently still in that leveling up stage so has yet to get a crafting profession and I’ve not decided at this point what she will get. Right now she is skinning/herbalism. I actually have many others, but these are the 4 I know I will be playing this time around. 2 at 80 and working on the other 2. My shaman will get rid of at least herbalism as I do not need another flower picker and I’d much rather do that on my druid.
Anyhow…short version!
I min/max
January 14th, 2009
Engineering/Herbalism is probably one of the worst combos out there — well, depending on whether or not they decide to remove Fire Leaf. Engineering is getting a *minor* upgrade, and being able to make a Chopper is meh at best since anyone can use them, anyway.
That being said, if I could I’d probably spec BS/JC, but I farm flowers for someone and I’m just not dropping engineering at this point.
January 14th, 2009
Needed tailoring to gear my priest at 70 and took enchanting somewhere along the way because I foolishly thought / listened to advice that it was a money maker.
Now I’m just complacent. Both enchanting and tailoring offer some benefits to my priest and have a bit of synergy between them.
If I was terribly wealthy (might have been hadn’t I spent a fortune to almost instantly go from pretty much no shadow gear to a full purple set a few weeks before the end game nerf in BC) I would think of min/maxing. I’d check out what JC / Inscription / Alchemy had to offer.
January 14th, 2009
My main is currently rocking Mining/Engineering, and has been since day 1 for him.
I’m a little torn right now though… I just got my epic sky jalopy, which is nice, but I’ve already passed up the tanking goggles gear-wise, before I could even make them, and I think my current holy helm is better than the new goggles that are coming, so there’s very little for me to look forward to from my profession.
But, to actually *answer* your question: I didn’t choose for min/maxing. I just like gadgets.
January 14th, 2009
Right now, I’m witching around professions, and reorginizing, but I do enjoy mining…
January 14th, 2009
I have found myself just going with skinning/mining. Sometimes thinking “well I’ll just change them once I hit 80.. not worry about it before then” but never do end up changing them. To me the crafting professions are not much more than a gold sink. Sure, inscription will get ya an extra mostly-useless glyph and a shoulder enchant. Leatherworkers get some AP or something else good for their wrists. But for the most part anything you want made can be done with 5 minutes in the trade channel and a 10g tip. I’d rather have those gathering skills workin for me personally.
January 14th, 2009
@ Riffraff
Inscription doesn’t even get the extra glyph. The shoulder enchants are now the only BoP portion of that profession.
January 14th, 2009
One of the things I really enjoyed about LWing on my hunter was the drums. They essentially serve as trinkets for the entire party. I do hope that Blizz decides to reimpliment WOTLK equivilants of these in some form or fashion.
January 14th, 2009
I chose to be an engineer because I loved all the neat gadgets. I Loved the helicopter, and I am a huge fan of the bombs and ammunition.
I needed to be a miner in order to level engineering though, as the profession is expensive.
If I really wanted to min-max, I would have chosen leatherworking and Skinning. So personally, I don’t care.
January 14th, 2009
Tailoring/Enchanting has always worked for me. When I head back to town, I d/e all my unneeded greens and blues and I do what I can do. Through WotLK leveling, my enchanting jumped up to around 415 without me spending a single dime, and a lot of those points came from guildies and random people with mats, all of whom usually throw me at least 20-30g, even though I never ask for it. One guy gave me all the mats for 3 enchants (all of which got me a point) and threw in 100g on top of it.
Tailoring I took as a nublet to try to get gear, and as slow as I am, 80 was the first level I could make anything I’d even remotely want to wear. It didn’t hurt that, again, my guildies came to my rescue and bought frostweave bags and frost resist epics and helped me get to where I am without too much need to spam ads in trade chat all day.
January 15th, 2009
I forgot the “_Misa” at the end so…
_MIsa
January 15th, 2009
I started out picking professions that I thought “made sense” for my characters. That logic didn’t always ring true. However, tailoring and alchemy are on my main. Previously tailoring was great for my Warlock for the FSW set and alchemy seemed reasonable to use and provide for the guild.
I still try to follow something that seems to make sense to me, but the combinations often look odd to others, such as enchanting/jewelcrafting on one toon. But, across my alts, I have gathering covered and can usually make some stuff for them, especially as they level. I often dream of being able to utilize the best BoP stuff for all my toons, but, I’m sorta sick and twisted in liking to craft things. (I’d rather craft than farm mos of the time!)
January 15th, 2009
Im sorta meh on min/maxing actually. I know, ironic.
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Hildi’s profs used to be lilly picking and mining because…they were easy, made some money, and and fed into the profs for my then main. Even after changing her to my main I kept the same profs. I only changed to alchemy/herbs for the trinket +40% mana on potions. Other than that, I have a toon that is a JC because you sob’s and your stupid highway robbery for gems were pissing me off.
January 15th, 2009
I am one of those people who suffer from Altitis. My mains (protection warrior) professions were chosen for their min/max value at level 70 – I use blacksmithing and engineering.
Blacksmithing used to be good after just reaching 70 for a nice and guaranteed purple fighting-thing – and has continued to be okay for the two additional sockets. In comparison they currently pale against both leatherworking (+90 stamina *swoon*) or inscription.
Engineering has the nice toys (which I never get to use – they waste precious global cooldowns) and had the insane goggles at 70. The new goggles are okay and better than the blacksmithing stuff, but I will replace them with dropped loot soonish (if luck holds out). Other than that (and the gnomish x-ray gogs) there seems to be no benefit whatsoever – and it even pales against enchanting with the two +24 stamina on rings.
The madness continues in the warlock alt – who learnt engineering (goggles at 70) and jewelcrafting. And at about this time I noticed that a miner or two or three would support the empire nicely, so all the other alts have at least one, often two gathering professions. With the introduction of the hidden boni to gathering that is actually not a bad choice at times (even though the passive bonus of skinning or mining seems more desirable than the active flowerpicking – I actually have to remember than I can heal myself).
January 15th, 2009
I think that all the non gathering professions should be able to make an item that is available at 5 lvl incriments (ie 35, 40, 45, etc) and is BoE that is better and I mean Really better that anything that can be gotten through questing, pvp, or loot drop. This would enable crafters to have something that really makes some money. These should also be trained instead of gotten through a drop. I have an inscriber and frankly glyphs are not a hot item althoug vellium sells well but it should go better. Putting enchants on scrolls to sell seems to work well you just have to figure out what is the best. The fact that the best JC recipes are mostly availabel through doing daily JC quests seems a big handy cap to me.
January 19th, 2009
I went JC and Inscription for wrath, and was making good money selling snowfall ink on the ah for a while. Now i have most of the stuff that i need, so i just do the jewelcrafting daily, and sell the dragon’s eye for 250 – 280g a day, making this one daily generally worth 275g a day for about 10 mins work